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Up until eric left the show was pretty flawless but it just didnt work without the center of the show. From the start eric was the character that tied the story togethar and with him gone it lacked something... and then kelso left wich really made it obvious the show was over
I loved the show from beginning till when jackie and hyde broke up...because of the difference in the personalities that made it enjoyable, jackie and kelso was the same so it didn't work...jackie and fez was just a 'what the heck not' kinda ending and it sucked. i was really dissappointed to see that, i really thought they would have put hyde and jackie together in the end and as for donna and eric...well it ended ok in that story line, we didn't really need to see a wedding to know they would be together. i think kelso was awesome from beginning to end, i love ashton!
Overall, funny as hell show but ridiculous ending...rewrite please!!!
This show jumped big time when Tanya Roberts' character (Midge) left.
Jim, growing up on the south side of Chicago, I can attest to the fact that 95% of the people I was forced to grow up with fits you description of the characters perfectly.
This show jumped on day one.

I've never understood the appeal of this show; the girls are all sadistic,, manipulative bitches, and the the lead male charactes are either dimwits, losers with no future, or both. All in all, it's the most depressing "comedy" of the last decade (with the possible exception of the rancid "Malcom In The Middle)...
Okay, I'm going to start by saying that I LOVE this show. But every episode during the last season (besides the finale) - it just jumped and never looked back.

Hyde punches Kelso for screwing things up between him and Jackie. Right before Hyde finds out he accidentally married a stripper, he says he's not ready to be married YET, indicating he still has feelings for her but doesn't desire to be that serious. IMMEDIATELY in the next episode, he seems to lose ANY feelings he had for Jackie, and loses them for good. Which is unrealistic, and stupid.

In a WAY I'm glad they did the last season, because things DID need to find a closing. However, the story lines sucked in comparison to their first seven seasons, everyone reverted back to their one-dimensional, first season selves (although WORSE, because at least in season one we had character development), and Jackie ending up with Fez was just WRONG. Throughout the ENTIRE SERIES, she makes fun of him for being foreign, says she'd never date a foreign, and has gone as far as to say that she thought Nina (first time) was upset because she was doing it with a foreigner. They show some sexual tension, which, if they had resolved that in the beginning of season 8 and had her end back up with Hyde, would've been fine. But to end it with both of them together was horrible. It just didn't make sense with the rest of the series.

They managed to pull things together for the last episode, but I think that the start of season eight was when That 70's Show jumped the shark.
Omg how can some of u guys not like this show it freakin rocks I'm in 7th grade and i freakin love it it's been over for 4 years now but i'm just discovering it and i dont know how some of u people can get bored in this show i mean just when it starts 2 get boring it comes back with a hilarious episode for example after Eric breaks up with Donna in the 3rd year it was a sad and depressing episode but then the next episode comes back with Hyde, Fez,Kelso and Jackie going to fun Land and hyde gets a shirt thats says F U on the back of it if u didnt laugh at that u practically have no sense of humor and also theres Leo he's really drugged out in that show but it's hilarious and u people who write this show need 2 make a shirt that says "Pretty Soon you'll have a classic case of foot stuck in ass" and if u dont have the seasons out on dvd get 2 it and one more thing u people who havent discovered this show r missing out
The show seemed to jump when the writers took one main aspect of the characters and made all the jokes one-liners about that trait.

For example, they decided that Fez was, above all, a pervert, and all of his jokes were about that. Hyde didn't care about anything, so all of his jokes were about that. Everything Jackie said was unnecessarily mean. Eric became a lazy, dorky slacker. Kitty being and alcoholic and Red's "foot in the ass" jokes got overplayed, too.

I didn't like the 8th season especially because none of the characters seemed to be themselves. When Hyde came back from Vegas, he punched Kelso in the face for messing up things with Jackie. Then, in the next episode, he encourages Kelso to propose to Jackie without seeming to desire Kelso to be embarrassed or burned. Also, Jackie and Fez suddenly became best friends and eventually got together, which seemed unrealistic. She always thougt Fez was foreign and creepy. And she got meaner towards Donna, who was also not a good friend to her.

I have rarely seen writers disrespect their previous work the way the writers of That 70s Show disrespected their characters on the eighth season.
A lot of people apparently took the show too seriously. It was supposed to be bad and cheesy and funny. It was satirical -- poking fun at the 70's in general.

Yeah, the show kinda sucked after Eric left. I mean, who continues with a show after the central character is gone? What the hell? But, you know, I'm kindof glad they did.

If you're going to pick at things then you can't enjoy the show. Wake up and smell the cheesiness. I mean, it was in Wisconsin -- oh my god, I know bad pun.
No matter how many people liked J/H, I think the show lost its appeal after the 3rd season
Kurtwood Smith and Don Stark made the show, otherwise, it would have been stupid.

The sets were cheap, the guest actors were irritating, and the some of the plots weren't realistic.

I recall the episode where the gang goes to Canada to buy beer and on their way back, are stopped.

Ok, the problem is, after you LEAVE Canada to REENTER the U.S., you stop at U.S. Customs, not Canadian customs. Guess the writers decided no one would be clever enough to figure out that pesky detail when they booked Joe Flaherty and Dave Thomas as guest stars.

I also guess the producers didn't think we knew geography either, since Wisconsin doesn't border Canada. And who drives 6 hours to get a case of beer? Wouldn't a fake ID have been cheaper, never mind.

Red and Bob were it.
Some posters think that the Kelso/Jackie pairing was the best. As I remember it, Kelso cheated on Jackie left, right and sideways throughout their whole relationship! If they got married it would have been a disaster, with her nagging and his stupidity, immaturity and cheating. Even he was smart enough to run away when she wanted to get married. As for Hyde being turned into a wimp, he never let her change him or tell him what to do, but he matured because of his ownership of the record store and changed naturally because a lot of radicals morphed into corporate types as the seventies ended. Also, I agree that Donna becoming a blond, which made her look like just another pretty girl, was a major shark jump along with the disintergration of her great relationship with Eric. Why did they turn Eric into a callous nineties slacker? Why did they destroy a once great show? It boggles the mind...
I think the season five is still watchable, but after that, it's not the same
Yeah that 70's Show jump the shark.
on the Kelso/Fez gay thing. I see it like the Stewie gay thing on family guy (which has links to that 70's Show). Seth MacFarlane has said Stewie is gay, but still people think he is not. Kelso/Fez gay thing is just like the Stewie gay thing:

Seth MacFarlane elaborated:

"We all feel that Stewie is almost certainly gay, and he’s in the process of figuring it out for himself. We haven’t ever really looked into it because we get a lot of good jokes from both sides, but we treat him oftentimes as if we were writing a gay character."

see Kelso and Fez are the same way.
Stewie like kelso and fez seems to be in the middle but they are gay.

70's Show jump the shark with the 8 season and so did the Kelso and Fez thing, but the last show de-jumps.
I think that the That 70's Show's Character Arcs broken seems do be the cause for the show jumping the shark too. I have been watching allot of that 70's show for a month now and i can see that Eric/Donna arc was broken once their did it in season two. The Eric and Donna Characters start to turn into selfish jerks. I hate Eric and Donna both now after seeing How their really act. It is always me, Me, Me with Eric and Donna. I start to see how if they were real people that most people would not want to be friends with them. I know most guys on here love Donna, but I think guys love her for her red hair and big boobs than who the Character is. Donna is a pain just like Eric is a pain too.

Eric and Donna were the classic boy next door with the girl next door type of Characters.

I know some people hate Hyde and Jackie together, but it is their Character arc.

Hyde and Jackie were the classic poor boy with rich girl type of Characters. this fits Hyde and Jackie from show one.
Hyde is true to his name because he always "hides" his true feels by act like he is not the way he really is. Many episodes show this fact. It to me seems that the Hyde/Jackie arc planned out from day one and that it just took the writers forever to uncover it. Season 8 broke the Hyde/Jackie arc.

now the one allot people hate or can't see it or think it is a joke:
The Kelso/Fez Character Arc.
This Character Arc is all laid out from day one and it is real.
Kelso and Fez were the classic pre-outed tall white guy with a pre-outed shorter guy with darker skin type. I have seen and known seems like millions of gay male couples who fit the Kelso and Fez type. also who does not know a friend or a classmate who seem like a full hetro, then years later you learn that that person was secretly gay all-a-long. that is Kelso and Fez.

all these Character Arcs broken seem to have made the show jump the shark.
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That 70's Show
First Show 1998
Slot Time 8 pm
Last Show 2006
Slot Day Tuesday
Genre Comedy
Network FOX
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